Curse

Aviator The Hunter · Sep 16, 2011, 01:58 PM // 13:58

The thing that bothers me is that they spot the enemy lets say 20 yards away, when they start hitting him, they stop attacking when their longbow reaches the max range which is way more then 20 yards.. They should handle short bows..

Amy Awien · Sep 17, 2011, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by Coraline Jones

What kind of made-up nonsense is this? First of all, why would you be rolling new characters all the time for JQ and FA? Does the meta change every single day?

Because perhaps he plays more different PvE and PvP formats and doesn't have enough slots left to keep semi-permanent PvP toons. I know I wouldn't have enough slots to keep toons around for RA, FA, JQ, HA and GvG.

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Why not just use the same stupid name as the one you just deleted?

You can not reuse names.

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Finally, if you're so darn lazy to type in a new name, which takes like what, three seconds...

Making up a new unique name that makes sense is a lot more work then typing it.

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Well, it takes longer to go through all the armor and weapon configuration menus.

We have something called templates, had them for years.

Chocolate_Prayers · Sep 17, 2011, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by Coraline Jones

Why not just use the same stupid name as the one you just deleted?

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

You can not reuse names.

What? Yes you can...

Gabriel of Ravn · Sep 17, 2011, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

You can not reuse names.

You can reuse the same name as many times as you want as long as there isn't another character in game with the same name. I've rerolled 1 of my dedicated PvP slots dozens of times always with the same name.

M3G · Sep 19, 2011, 07:15 AM // 07:15

IIRC Once char is deleted, name is reserved for 24h. Past this delay any account can use this name.

Xherken · Sep 20, 2011, 11:34 AM // 11:34

Bot Wars !

I'm so distgusted with how GW 1 is doing that I don't even want to hear about GW2. What pathetic ability to respond to 3rd party program users. Im sure tons of players are running this just by googling it, knowing nothing will be done. Why be an honest player when botting is being allowed ??? Seeing how long its been a problem, this is BEING ALLOWED ! Out of 16 people we're lucky to get a real player or 2. Its total PvE in JQ right now.

Bots are easy to spot btw ! Just takes common sense and observation. Mechanical behaviors, random skill spamming, complete lack of reaction to changes in environment, randomized names, movement to platform, moving in groups of synced bots, durable / useless builds, can be pulled like a mob, set to offline or do not distrub and will never answer in area of party chat, more.

Mireles · Sep 20, 2011, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Xherken

I'm so distgusted with how GW 1 is doing that I don't even want to hear about GW2. What pathetic ability to respond to 3rd party program users. Im sure tons of players are running this just by googling it, knowing nothing will be done. Why be an honest player when botting is being allowed ??? Seeing how long its been a problem, this is BEING ALLOWED ! Out of 16 people we're lucky to get a real player or 2. Its total PvE in JQ right now.

This seems like a repeat of past events.... hopefully when were all fusterated enough... they ban them all at once and we get to watch them come over here and QQ about how its not fair they got caught cheating and paid the price.

Damian Greenthumb · Sep 21, 2011, 06:48 AM // 06:48

OK for for the sake of full disclosure, I was in JQ the night before last quite late and the bulk of the Lux side were bots. Quite obvious. Quite deliberate in their un-diliberate routines. Honestly I was liking the consitant 10-0, 9-1 victories. Was bitter sweet. Now the only diference in my gaming was that I was playing much later than normal, about 8am eastern Asia time. Asian 9-5'er bots? Who knows? Who cares? I dont. I didnt let them ruin my day. I just repeatedly toasted their Healing Breeze Derv toe to toe over and over.

Chocolate_Prayers · Sep 21, 2011, 09:30 AM // 09:30

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Originally Posted by M3G

IIRC Once char is deleted, name is reserved for 24h. Past this delay any account can use this name.

Actually there was an occasion where I had deleted a PvP toon to attempt a reroll only to find that someone else had snatched the name away.. this was less than a minute after I had deleted the character. (Even added them to check whether it was really taken.)

Xherken · Sep 22, 2011, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Actually srew this stupid garbage. Screw Bot Wars and screw GW2, I will NOT fund a company thats fails so hard at its own products ! They don't give a sh ! t about you, they only want your money. What a crappy failure of an end, not suprising for a failure of a species heading for extinction. Stupid people need to die.

Chocolate_Prayers · Sep 22, 2011, 06:27 AM // 06:27

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Originally Posted by Xherken

Actually srew this stupid garbage. Screw Bot Wars and screw GW2, I will NOT fund a company thats fails so hard at its own products ! They don't give a sh ! t about you, they only want your money. What a crappy failure of an end, not suprising for a failure of a species heading for extinction. Stupid people need to die.

I guess you should head that way too.

A few things to consider before you do:
You paid for the game ONCE (a few other times to purchase additional content)... I don't see how that makes them greedy for your money.
The company is NOT charging you a fee to play every month which a lot of other games do (also games which are much worse quality than GW).
Additionally, the company is still providing FREE content and updates, as well as attempting to fix bugs and skill balancing with their currently lacking staff members (and this is after 6 odd years of running the game).
I'm sure if you browse for other MMORPGs you'll run into much worse companies and you'll realize that what's going on in GW is not nearly as bad as you made it out to be.

bennyandthejets · Sep 22, 2011, 09:28 AM // 09:28

Yeah this really needs to be addressed. If anything like this exists in GW2 it will ruin the game. As of right now, FA/JQ are plagued by bots/leavers/afker's/leeches. Been reporting them for months. Nothing is being done.

Swingline · Sep 22, 2011, 10:20 AM // 10:20

The real flaw is players cant join a game already in progress. This really should have been implemented a long time ago. If players could report someone on their team and kick them out then others could come in who actually want to play.

Sciros Darkblade · Sep 22, 2011, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Not a bad idea, Swingline. As long as the rewards earned at the end are weighted by how long you've been in the match, that could work well. (They have to be weighted, otherwise you can earn 4000 faction just by popping in at the last second which would continue to benefit bots the exact same amount as no solution at all.)

Chocolate_Prayers · Sep 22, 2011, 02:26 PM // 14:26

That still opens up the option of making syncing a helluva lot easier for certain people, if one random happens to get on their team: *POP* out he goes, in comes the sync-ee.. but still, has good potential for kicking out bots and griefers.

Missing HB · Sep 22, 2011, 02:48 PM // 14:48

The problem is once again inactivity... Every single game has bots and abusers anyway... the only diference is how many times you notice them... Even in the most populated PvP format today, which is JQ by far, you can note a certain amount of bots upon 10 games... which means that the number of bots is too high compared to the total number of players....

You note that even more in formats such as RA , furthermore HA and Codex entirely... Who would care of bots, abusers if there were 3 full districts in every format and we then faced those kind of players once every 3 hours ?

Your idea is on theory good, but :
- on the long term, it will have no impact on the number of players
- people will still play formats for the reward only
- most problematic one : how will you do to make someone leave?

Basically, my 3rd point is where the problem is. Obviously, if someone left yet, it would be cool if he was replaced, but :
- if you need, let's say 5 reports to make someone leave, can't you imagine people will report warriors, paragons etc... then fights will be reports till both got roj monks bombers and mesmers...
- if you make it so you report leeching players, how will you make the diference with someone who's just afk for a minute ?

Bobby Sox · Sep 23, 2011, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Damian Greenthumb

OK for for the sake of full disclosure, I was in JQ the night before last quite late and the bulk of the Lux side were bots. Quite obvious. Quite deliberate in their un-diliberate routines. Honestly I was liking the consitant 10-0, 9-1 victories. Was bitter sweet. Now the only diference in my gaming was that I was playing much later than normal, about 8am eastern Asia time. Asian 9-5'er bots? Who knows? Who cares? I dont. I didnt let them ruin my day. I just repeatedly toasted their Healing Breeze Derv toe to toe over and over.

They are very proliferant during late evening and nighttime hours in the US/Europe. As others have stated, it is due to how many fewer real players are on at these times. When players start going to bed, teams in JQ become more and more filled with bots, since there are fewer players entering at a time.

Imagine if they had been your teammates instead of enemies. I have had plenty of matches late at night when I was lucky to see one other real player out of the 16 characters on the map. Even more commonly, though, I see 3-6 bots on both teams and a major factor in determining a winner comes down to which team has the fewer wasted player slots. This is a very annoying reality and does affect gameplay.

A few of the normal patterns to watch for in spotting bots:

-If they are programmed to head to the center portal, they "miss" to the side and circle to the backside of the portal before taking a step back to exit (always the exact same path).

-If they are programmed to exit the portal towards the nearest shrine (Purple for Kurzick, Green for Luxon), they will stand immobile for a long time on the portal waiting for an enemy to come into range. This means that unless a real player goes to that side, the mine will not be captured for a long time, if at all, because an enemy is not detected by the bot.

-If the bot is programmed to exit the portal towards the Yellow shrine, they will always turn immediately towards the ranger shrine on the hill if the opposite team controls it (including at the start to the detriment of the mine).

-They only use C targeting. You can stand in one spot tanking a group of bots and they will NEVER change targets unless someone else moves closer to them and then the effect is immediate (You can keep them from ever capping a shrine in this way as a side note).

-As long as they stay alive, they will not move from their spot until the foe that they are spamming skills on dies or moves. There are spots where you can actually trap the bots behind a corner out of casting range and they will not move unless a teammate gets closer and causes them to switch targets.

There are plenty of other tipoffs, too. Some have been noted already by other people (like the usage of healing skills at 100% health in synch with their rotation). If you aren't seeing many bots, you are either playing at peak times or aren't watching for these patterns.

EDIT: On rereading that last sentence, it sounds agressive. Know that I didn't mean it to be, or for it to be directed at you personally, Damian. It was meant to be a generalized statement.

Damian Greenthumb · Sep 23, 2011, 05:53 AM // 05:53

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Originally Posted by Bobby Sox

EDIT: On rereading that last sentence, it sounds agressive. Know that I didn't mean it to be, or for it to be directed at you personally, Damian. It was meant to be a generalized statement.

No worries Bobby

I just posted to clear the air due to my previous "Aint seen no bots/WTH u talkin bout?" posts.

bennyandthejets · Sep 23, 2011, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Is this what we can expect from GW2?

makosi · Sep 23, 2011, 05:09 PM // 17:09

By doing bugger all, anet is permitting this behaviour by implication.

Feel free to bot and leech faction all day long. There are no repercussions.